reports saying that there had been a big manhunt, big search for this little boy because he was taken so close to where he lived from his day camp, but he said that apparently he panicked when word got out that there was a big search, an maybe that's when it happened. right now a lot more expected to come out in court, randi. >> a lot. deb feyerick watching the court hearing for us. deb, thank you. >>> perhaps what makes this more unnerving and disturbing is not only the detales of kletzky's murder and where it happened and what community it involved, as we've been talking about. aron and kletzky are from a very devout enclave of heaasidic jew. we wanted to bring in a rabbi who is a world leading relationship and spiritual expert. he joins me from new york, along with "new york times" reporter liz robbins who has been covering this story very closely. liz, i'd like to start with you. when you say borough park what, comes to mind for most new yorkers? i mean, how safe is this area? >> reporter: i would say the residents of borough park, a mostly hasdic feel very safe or at least until